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Surf, I have been reading your posts and I need to tell you a few things. As to your last inquisition, no one is going to know that. No one. If they did we wouldn't be here perhaps. Maybe there would be a better method. But you are asking questions that aren't answerable, beside the answer to the question of ETS. You are missing what people have been telling you. The damage done by sympathectomy cannot be altered by other methods as say injection to the nerve. You are kidding yourself, as it is the nature of the destruction of the nerve and nerves around the T chain that create all of our problems. Your desperation to the effects of sympathectomy are only going to lead you into bad decision making. And yes when reading your posts there is a heavy desperation tone throughout. I was the same before my operation, the last three years at the start of the year I would tell myself I cannot go another summer sweating like this. I have abused xanax and alcohol to cover my feeling of HH in the past as no one ever seemed to understand my sweating. Not doctors, not dermatologists, not counselors. I didn't find this site prior to my surgery, but anyone who has read the stories here and who still goes through with ETS is a fool, a complete fool. This site has been the best thing for me as far as therapy. I encourage you, no urge you to switch gears away from ETS and begin working on some acceptance of your problem. This is not easy by no means but sites like this where others experience the same as you is the starting point to your improved life. You need to endlessly search for a qualified dermatologist or doctor to help you try medications. With that you need to inquire to hyperhidrosis sufferers(most of us here are only ETS victims now) to find out tricks and practical methods of reducing your sweating. And that is also important, chances are you will never completely stop sweating. That is what I was shooting for with ETS, and like you I was desperate and now my life is even less satisfying then before. I am having to learn new ways of dealing with my ETS complications and it is very stressful. To have ETS you will only be exchanging problems and probably adding a few as most of us here experience. ETS is not the answer, only another question. So don't set yourself up thinking your sweating will be gone because of ETS. Instead of your hands you will be walking around with a sweaty back and ass.

So please do not continue to wear yourself out trying to figure out the puzzle of ETS, as its a puzzle with a piece missing so you will never get it done. And again your desperation is going to lead you down the wrong path, you need to jump course and start helping your HH through other means. And the members here have offered you all they can as far as info on ETS. There is no other place you can go to find such information. So listen as up, til now you haven't been listening only shutting out what you don't want to hear. Work on you HH and leave ETS alone, because that's what it will do to you. It will leave you alone to battle the damage it has done.

Charlie

Surf, I don't always intend to be combative of others here, but I wanted to be straight with you no sugar coating about ETS. I never had anything but what I would consider normal hand sweating, but all through middle school and high school I lived with having huge wet stains under my arms. I had many friends and as I got older I tried to enjoy a few more things as I could mask it a little better but still not where I didn't think about it as soon as I got up in the morning. By the time I got to school you could already see sweat through the two shirts I would wear. I became less involved in the actual school aspect, couldn't raise my hand to answer a question and when called to the board I would race to the side so I could be turned so that my classmates didn't see. Along with my sweat I smelled. I went from a leader in grade school, in advanced classes to a recluse failing and with mainly C's. I hated it. Girls I wanted to date I couldn't because of fear of what they would say once they got close to me, because if you didn't have me in class or something you may not have known I sweat, but to me it seemed everybody would know at some point. I had a couple of girlfriends in my senior year, but not long term. I was refered to as gross, stinky and cannot begin to tell you some of the things I heard from people because it makes me feel so ashamed still today. And to top it all of in my later teens and early 20's I began having severe facial sweating as well. This is the area I had surgery for because it ran down my face in conditions it shouldn't have. Now I endless dream of going back and reliving my life again without those problems, and I fear the future because of the same and increased problems I have now due to ETS. The same was in college, but different, I could take breaks between classes and go home and change shirts but I still worried endlessly about what if a girl I like finds out that. Or what if a girl approaches me and I have to turn her down because the first things that pops into my mind is her asking me to go somewhere where it is hot and I start to profusely sweat as usual. Hyperhidrosis is such a mind game, this is why I need you to and you need you to begin to learn to think differently. I think the best way is to come clean to someone and say man I have this hand sweating problem that I hate and it bothers me. More then likely you friend may say I haven't noticed, whether they are being nice or haven't actually noticed which is often the case. We are our biggest critic. But let me tell you about the release of stress you have when doing that very thing. I have told alot of my friends and family about my problem now that I have had the surgery and more things have gone wrong. I don't have that burden of worrying if they notice me sweating, because I know they know I sweat. And it took me til age 26 before I ever told anyone about it, and he was my counselor and a good guy. The only person who really comprehended me. There will be a person out there for you like that, may take some looking. If you go to a doctor or counselor or nurse or anything and feel as if they do not have your best interest in mind or seem to understand what you are going through, then don't go back. I have walked out of doctors offices because of the way they have treated me. It is your life and your health and its a business to them so treat it like one. If you bought a bad product from a store or a cashier was rude would you not say something or no longer shop there, same with docs. I tell you this because there are a lot of ignorant medical professionals out there. I have about six life long health conditions beside my ETS problems and I have been to countless doctors and specialist and many of them have been a negative impact on my life. Example being I submitted a urine sample for tests being done on my kidneys, and the doctors told me I was lying about having done my sample right because they had never seen anybody have a low volume that way over a 24hr period. They accused me of lying, and that is absurd. So good doctors are like finding a four leaf clover, you have to look for awhile. Doing this and finding someone who understands your problem will help with you dealing with it. You will never stop sweating more then likely, atleast not in the manner you want to so by taking steps to alleviate stress and learning ways to help and cope then you can live a happy life. If not you will live my life, one in ruin and defeat. Learn to accept and communicate about your problems no matter how embarrasing they are. Seek out what you need and be hesitant to have a surgery which does not literally save your life.

Charlie

And wonder why he would cut your T2 and T3 when it is said by ALL surgeons the T4 is responsible for hand sweating. Not to mention you would be cut... Fucking Ridiculous