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 smoothy boothy |
RE:OXYGEN LEVELS |
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Posts: 71 08/01/09 07:52 AM |
Does anyone know if oxygen levels are reduced after ets surgery???? and also does anyone take oxygen suppliments to improve some of there symptoms????? if so
what are they and how do they help. I suffer with excess acid, dizzieness, light headedness, vision problems, weakness, nausea, fatigue, memory loss!!! could
this be down to my oxygen levels being very low?????????? please help.
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Posts: 405 08/01/09 08:03 AM |
It could be possible, the circulation problems can be lead to the lack of oxygen that dont arrive with force enough to hands due to the cauterization of
this nerves. for example that can give ETS patients the right cold hand? Could be?.
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Posts: 1194 08/01/09 09:18 AM Administrator |
Hi Callum,
While thoracic sympathectomy has been shown to reduce respiratory capacity, the effect is not great enough to reduce blood oxygen levels in a chronic fashion unless it is combined with some other condition like asthma. All things being normal, the reduced lung capacity means a possible higher respiration rate and reduced athletic capacity. Blood oxygen levels are easy to measure. If you think you suffer from that, you can get it checked. But, you shouldn't attribute it to ETS. And, if someone is advertising "oxygen supplements", you should laugh hysterically and keep your money in your wallet. You can't ingest oxygen. Anyone telling you differently is selling snake oil. We got suckered by physicians selling surgical snake oil. We should not let ourselves be suckered by the snake oil salesmen pitching nonsense like "oxygen supplements". I'm not saying your fatigue and other symptoms are unrelated to your sympathectomy -- just that oxygen levels are not regulated or affected by sympathectomy. A more likely cause would be the overall loss of sympathetic tone. The sympathetic nervous system does play a role in regulating metabolism. I wish I could offer some solution. For me, I found that regular exercise helps more than anything else. Good luck. |
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smoothy boothy |
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Posts: 71 08/01/09 03:44 PM |
Thankyou!!!!
I'm so fed up with it all. Are there no positive answers out there? I appreciate your input everybody, i really do. but i've tried everything! but nothing works for me. I hope i get another chance at life after this one! if this is the only life we have, i have really fucked it up by agreeing to have ets surgery. i,m so pissed off. Thanks guys. Cal. |
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Posts: 116 08/02/09 04:52 PM |
I feel the same way. I wake up every day with this feeling of doom. I'm so sick of the acne all over my back from having to wear wet clothes all day, and
the fungal rashes too. I can't change at work during the day so I have to live with it. I am so scared for the future and getting older, wondering who
will take care of me. I feel like I can't take care of myself now, living with the terrible fatigue, and shortness of breath. Looking so old, losing
eyelashes, plus I seem to one of the 1% the surgeon fucked up enough to give Horner's. If I'm not a work, I stay inside all the time. With no energy
and feeling so disfigured, all I want to do is hide. Sometimes I feel like writing the surgeon and telling him he ruined my life, but I know he would deny
being responsible for any of my problems and I know he doesn't care. I hope he rots in hell, or I hope there's some victim out there even more crazy
than me who will put a bullet in his head. If he died, I would feel an overwhelming sense of peace and calm, and only then would I be able to feel that there
is something right and good in this world.
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Posts: 616 08/02/09 08:07 PM |
I can hear your despair Erika, but I do not agree with your 'preemptive' dismissal at all!
I do not know why did you convince yourself that it is utterly pointless for you to write a letter to your surgeon and tell him how you are feeling now, what has changed after ETS and how it affected your life. I think if everyone who is adversely affected would pour just 1% of their anger/rage and despair into a letter and would send it to the surgeon, they would not be able to hide behind their self-delusion for long. The lie can be maintained if there is no opposition, but letters like that would slowly erode the confidence and the myth on which this surgery, it's safety and effectiveness is based. So I really urge you to write it down, maybe not mail it the same day, reread it in a couple of days and then you can eliminate some of the stuff that you might think is not helping to make him understand your situation. You are right, one letter like that will not make a significant difference, but if every one of us who feels that there was something not right about his surgery, the sugeons conduct or the information he/she received, it would have to result in change. Also it would help if you could mail a copy of the letter to the medical board....or anyone who monitors these things. I find it pointless to hope that someone will do the dirty work for you... and make you feel better. If you take charge and speak up, stand up for what you believe, you might feel at least a bit better, or you might feel that you regained some of your dignity (after being treated like a thing). If there is a lesson in submitting to this surgery, than it is that one should not be passive and accept what one is told uncritically, unconditionally. |
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smoothy boothy |
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Posts: 71 08/03/09 02:17 AM |
I would love to make everyone aware of just how this surgery kills people, go to the high courts, kill the surgeons. but the truth is i just can't be
bothered. My mind, emotions, feelings, the will to fight, adrenaline, strength, energy, have all gone now. The part of my brain that gave me the drive to
motivate myself no longer receives the proper signals to give me the will and determination, the pasageways were all destroyed with ets surgery. I can't
even get out of my flipping chair somedays. I have the memory of a 90 yr old, and being constantly dizzy all the time amongst everything else i,m fucked. Like
ERIKA said how the hell am i going to be strong enough to deal with this in old age. I feel this surgery will also dramatically have cut my life expectancy by
years!!!! it's absolutely terrible.
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Posts: 62 08/08/09 09:35 AM |
One of the biggest differences I've noticed post-ets is how my body reacts to exercise. I used to kinda get high from pushing myself from the adrenaline
and endorphins being released. I'd throw some weight on a bar and with each passing set I'd be more and more tuned in on pushing past the point of
exhaustion. Now when I do it, I can't sit down or my body relaxes too much and I'll feel like I just crawled out of bed and climbing under a weighted
bar seems that much harder. I don't rely on breathing to push myself anymore either, and I need more recovery time between sets.
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